Fitness Business University Podcast
The Fitness Business University Podcast — The #1 Fitness Business Podcast — is the go-to educational show for gym owners, by gym owners. Hosted by Vince Gabriele, a seasoned pro with 18 years in the trenches of the fitness industry, this podcast pulls back the curtain on the real strategies, systems, and money-making wisdom that have helped gyms around the world grow and thrive.
If you’re a Gym Owner or Fitness Entrepreneur ready to get more clients, make more money, and free up your time to do what you love, this is your playbook. Vince delivers a funny, straight-talking, no B.S. approach — no fluff, no theories, just the proven, real-world skills you need to win in business and in life.
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How to get more new clients and make more money without getting more leads
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Register now for the free How to Fix the Sales at Your Gym Masterclass on Thursday, April 23rd at 12pm Eastern: https://live.vincegabriele.com/april
More people signed up for this masterclass than the marketing one I did last month. That tells me a lot of you are in the same spot: you're getting leads, you just can't turn them into paying members.
This Thursday I'm hosting a free masterclass where I break down exactly how to fix that. We're covering how to get more leads to actually show up for a consultation. The one question you need to ask in every sales conversation that changes everything. How to select, present, and raise your prices without losing your members. How to get referrals and upgrade clients from two sessions a week to three. And the mindset shifts that reduce objections like "I need to talk to my spouse" before they even come up.
I also walk through the math on why a 10% improvement in your close rate could mean an extra $60K to $120K in lifetime revenue from just one small change.
No slides. No pitch at the end. Just a coaching session with a bonus for everyone who shows up live.
Register now for the free How to Fix the Sales at Your Gym Masterclass on Thursday, April 23rd at 12pm Eastern: https://live.vincegabriele.com/april
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Attrition Makes Growth Non Negotiable
The Three Sales Buckets That Matter
Getting Leads To Show Up
Converting Consults Into Members
Pricing Strategy Without Fear
Raising Rates On Current Members
Referrals And More Sessions Per Week
Sales Mindset And Prospect Psychology
Free Masterclass Details And Bonus
SPEAKER_00What's up everybody? Welcome to this video about the fix the sales masterclass. The first thing I gotta tell you is I'm recording this video on the Tuesday before the masterclass. And I, if you were to bet me a hundred dollars that the fix the sales masterclass would be outpacing the fix the marketing masterclass that I did last week, I would have thought I would lose that bet. And the reality is we have more people signed up for the fix the sales master masterclass. And as surprised as I am, I really think that there's a big shift in the industry. I think a lot of people are realizing that, hey, I'm getting leads. I am getting leads. I just can't get the leads on the phone, or I can't get them to show up, or I can't close them. And I think it's like starting to become this shift between I can't get any leads to I can't get any customers, right? And that's the biggest thing, right? That the biggest thing about this whole game is we can't cash leads. We can only deposit the money that we get from a customer into our bank account. So the sales conversation is really, really important. And so I'm going to shine the light on what I'm going to be talking about in the master class. And at the same time, hopefully we get some value from this video. The first thing I think we got to understand is this is the only guarantee in business that is you will lose clients, right? That's that's really the only guarantee in business is that you're gonna lose clients. And at the end of the day, even if you made your gym free, you're still gonna lose about 1% of your membership, right? If you've got 100 members, uh, you're not gonna keep everybody. Someone's gonna move, someone's gonna get sick, someone's gonna have life change, and they're not gonna trade at your gym, right? And so our businesses have this built-in layer of attrition, right? We're gonna lose some people. Now, for those of you doing a really good job, your attrition is three to five percent, right? And that means if you have a hundred members, you're losing three to five, you know, every month. That's if you're doing a good job. So even if you have a hundred members and you're doing a good job and you lose five, you still got to get five, right? To stay the same. So this whole free lunch thing doesn't exist. Like we still even if we have really good retention and a really good product, we still got to do some work to at least stay the same size. Now, if you want to grow, right? Let's say you're losing five and you want to get, you know, plus five, you know, at the end of each month, which is a great goal. You gotta do some work, right? And that's what we're gonna be talking about. Now, a couple things, and I have my notes here, that's why I'm looking down on what I want to cover. I I believe that there's a lot out there on marketing, right? And again, I'm a marketing guy. I talk a lot about marketing. There's tons of marketing agencies and people selling marketing and all of like things like that. But there's not as much on the sales side, there's not as much on people teaching gym owners on how to do the sales. Not, not, not none, right? There are some people doing a pretty good job of it. I like to think that we do a pretty good job of teaching people how to sell better. But my friend G.R. Hoff, that uh has an agency called Gym Emberschream, he does a really good job of coaching on the sales side as well. But at the end of the day, there's a lot out there to help you get more leads, and there's a promise of all these leads. And what it kind of does is it gives you that hit of dopamine. But the reality is, I said before, it doesn't do what we need to do in terms of putting it into our bank account, which is what what we're trying to do, right? You're trying to make some money in this business. So that's really what it's gonna be about is this whole masterclass is gonna be about how do we get customers that's gonna help us make the money we want to make. Now, if we're talking about sales, there's really only a couple things we need to know, right? There's really like, and we can boil it down to three things. So the first thing is, and it's the first metric that I'll go over, but the first metric is how what percentage of the leads that you get come in to do the first thing. Now, whether you do consultation, whether you do a trial membership, it doesn't matter, right? I'll use those terms interchangeably, right? But that's the first kind of metric. It's almost like we can put them in buckets, right? That's the first bucket. We got to be able to get that bucket to anywhere from 20 to 30, you know, percent. That means if we uh 10 leads, we got to be able to get, you know, two to three of them to come in for consultation or trial, right? And there's a lot of moving parts to that. There's, and I'll discuss all this on the masterclass, but there's, you know, how quickly we get to them, there's what we say on the phone, there's the whole process of getting them to show up. I mean, all of these things I'm gonna discuss and cover and give you the best practices and the things that are working right now uh to be able to do it. And then full disclosure, if you don't know who I am, I'm a business coach that does this for gym owners, but at the same time, on the other side of that wall, believe it or not, ready for it? Is it gym? And I own it. And there's people that train there and there's staff members that are employed, believe it or not. And so I use that as a lab, right? Looking at this stuff all day. I had a meeting an hour ago with the guy that runs my gym, and we're going over all of these numbers. So I'm doing this with you. I'm doing this along the way, and I'm seeing what's working, I'm seeing what's doesn't. Plus, we have you know 137, I think at this point, master on members where I'm hearing what's going on with them. So uh there has been a lot of challenges with this bucket. There's been a lot of challenges of the they don't answer the phone and they we can't get them on the phone, and you know, they respond to the text and then they disappear. There's a lot of that right now. So I'm gonna go over the best practices of what you need to do to be able to take that conversion rate and wherever you are, make it better, right? And am I am I gonna guarantee you that all of a sudden everyone's gonna show up? No, that's just not possible. So I think some of this is uh really gonna be about uh managing your expectations. Like some of you might be doing okay and you don't even realize it because you don't know your numbers. That's an important, that's an important distinction. Some of you are frustrated with your sales, but you actually might be doing better than you think based on there's some industry, you know, standard numbers. Now, there's always unicorns out there, but at the end of the day, I'll shine the light on what numbers are, what's good, what's not good, and how much can you actually uh get better. So that's that first bucket is getting the leads to show up for the first time. The second bucket, right, is converting them to a member, right? And this is really where the money is made. This is whether you do a consultation. You know, we on the other side of this wall is our consultation room. We have a room that's dedicated specifically for that. We sit down one-on-one with every customer for an hour. We don't do trials or free classes or stuff like that. That is just the way we do it. Not saying any of that is wrong. I have plenty of customers that do it that way, but that's just the way we do it. And that's the first step towards someone becoming a member at my gym, right? And so that is a very, very scripted, thought-out process, right? And they'll go over the best practices. What do we need to do to get more people to say yes? What do we get need to do to get more people to buy? And so we'll go over why they don't buy. We'll go over the common objections that they have in the sales process. We'll go over what you need to say. I talk about in the sales letter of this masterclass, is there's a really, really important question you need to ask. All right, I'm not gonna give it to you right now because I gave it to you in one of my emails. Hopefully you're reading the emails. All right, I gave I gave you the question. But what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna shine the light on, I'm gonna go deep on the actual question that you need to ask. If there's one question that trumps all other questions, and we got to ask this one, and you got to know this one, and you got to know a cold. So I'll go over the ins and outs of that question. And I and I'll tell you this when I learned this question, we spent about four hours at a workshop. I was at a workshop in Philadelphia with a program called the Strategic Coach Program. And we spent four hours on this question, and they just unpacked it and unpacked it. So I have a very, very, very deep understanding of this question. And I'm not gonna take four hours to do it. I'm gonna teach it to you in a few minutes and give you the ins and outs of what you need to know. But at the end of the day, to convert more people that come for a consultation or a trial, a lot of it comes down to that process. What happens in that process? Uh, what are the things we need to do, the things we need to say, the things we need to do ahead of time uh to be able to get more people to buy? And truth be told, just like there is a certain percentage of you know, people you're gonna convert from lead coming in to consult, there's just around a certain percentage you're gonna convert from, you know, consultation to new member, right? So we're not gonna get 100%, right? I don't think there's many people out there closing at 100%. And if you are, you need to raise your prices because you don't want to actually do that, right? So we'll we'll talk about the different percentages and the different what what should you be shooting for? And some of it is relative. Some of the matters is are you doing a trial membership? Are you doing an annual contract? Are you doing month to month? I'll go over all that stuff with you. Okay, so that's getting more people to buy in your consultation. And then the third bucket, this is a big one, is price. How much money are you charging? I had oh, I had a call with another gym owner, a prospect, you know, kind of responding to one of my books. And he's like, you know, I gotta get more customers, you gotta get more customers. And he was telling me what his prices were. And the poor guy was charging so little money. I told him, I was like, brother, I think the worst thing I can teach you is how to get more new customers because you're putting more new customers into a broken price model. And what's gonna happen is you're just gonna keep putting more customers into this thing. You're gonna keep working, working, working, and you're just gonna bring yourself out because you're not making any money as it is, and we just added more customers from that, and you keep having to work more, it's not gonna be a good ending to this. So we got to change some things. For him, he needed to change his model. I'm not gonna get into that tomorrow on the masterclass, but he really did need to change his price, right? And so price is is such an important piece of a financially successful business. And the thing with prices, it gets challenging, right? Because there's what involved? There's emotions. There's like, oh, how much am I charging? And like, are they gonna say no? And there's there's all kinds of stuff like that that happens. And I'm gonna teach you how to get past some of that. So I I will, I'm not gonna guarantee you this magic pill that you're all of a sudden get past all of it. Some of it will be how you grow as a person, right? Some of it will be how you develop yourself and the things you you your beliefs about yourself and your business and your product and your staff. And some of that, sometimes that does take time, to be honest with you. But I'm gonna kind of point you in the right direction to do that. But so I will talk about how to select your price, right? So how much you should be charging and how to get that. I'll talk about how to present price, which I think is a really, really important piece. I think a lot of people screw this up. Think Cheesecake Factory, right? You go to the Cheescake Factory and you have all these items to choose from, and there's so many things, and you're like, ah, I don't want to do it. I don't know if I want anything. Just like send me to the bar and I'll just drink because I can't decide what I want to eat. And there's a lot of gyms that that are like that. So I'll teach you how to simplify your price sheet, how you should be actually presenting uh your prices. And finally, I will talk about the king and the king of all kings to make more money, and that is how to raise your price on current members. Okay. And a lot of people are very fearful of this, a lot of people don't want to do it. Other people have said consultants have told them to promise that they will never ever raise their rates, which is terrible advice. And I'm just going to tell you that I personally, so full circle. So I personally in October of 2025 raised my prices at my gym about by$49 a month. We run a small group training gym and we were charging about$400 a month for twice a week. We we raised it to$449. The staff was very nervous, they were very scared. I was like, hey, you guys deliver a great product. We have great retention, we have great close rate, we have earned this price raise. And we did, and it was massively successful. So I'll teach you how to do that. I'll teach you what to say, I'll teach you how to present it to your customers. It's a really, really important piece. That alone, and just learning the skills that you need to learn to be able to raise price and do it in a way that you can keep maybe not 100%, but the majority of your members. And I'll show you some math on how to get around it. And I will show, I have a cool exercise that I teach in this one that's called price raise anxiety melter, right? How to how to melt anxiety about raising your prices with your members. So excited about that one. So we got uh presenting price, we got selecting price, we got raising price. And the last piece I'll talk about is hey, we got these members, right? Because we're talking about sales. Sales is about getting new customers, right? We want to make sales. We'll talk about how to make more sales from the customers you've got, right? And so specifically, I will talk about referrals because I believe that's the lowest hanging fruit and the biggest value. If you can get one customer and turn one customer into two customers, the lifetime value of that customer just doubled, right? And so that's a really, and I do think there's value in selling supplements and you know, offering other things 100%. I won't be covering that on the masterclass. I'll probably do that at a later date. But like the best thing that I can help you do to make more money from your current customers is how to generate referrals, is how to get them to generate referrals and and and how also to get them to train with you more often. That's that's a big piece, right? To how to get them to go from twice a week to three times a week. Like how many people do you have coming twice a week? Well, why aren't why aren't they coming three? So I'll show you a strategy on get how to get them from two times a week to to three times a week, which you know could you know make some big moves in your business just on that alone. Okay, uh, so those are the big needle uh movers that I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about. I will also talk about, sorry, this thing is like shaking. I will also talk about the sales mindset, okay? How to think about sales, because a lot of times people think like, oh, sales is you know a dirty word. I don't want to feel sleazy, I don't want to look stupid, I don't want people to think I'm greedy. And there's a lot of that in the gym industry because you know what we're we're nice people, right? We're good people, and we got into this injury of going to change lives and help people. And I did too. Like that's like I fell in love when I was a personal trainer in San Diego. I fell in love with helping people. I fell in love with it. I was just like, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. But I realized is that when I'm more financially successful, I can help more people. And when I'm not financially successful, I help less people, right? And so it's kind of like you need to get yourself in a good spot. If you get yourself in a good spot, you're gonna be able to lean into your staff better. You're gonna be able to help more people, you're gonna be able to like give money to charity, right? Like some of the the best money that I spend from being successful in business is like the money I give to my church. It's like so I'm so grateful to be able to have that opportunity to be able to do that every month. And that's why we want to be able to make money. So the first mindset is all about you, but the second mindset, this is really, really important, very important to understand is what's going on in the mind of your of the prospect. Really important. What is going on through their mind when they're buying? And what's going on through their mind when they're all of a sudden hearing stuff, they're hearing stuff, and they're like, uh, I need to talk to my spouse. I'm not sure if I can afford it. I don't think I have the time. I'm gonna tell you what's going in on in their minds, and I'm gonna tell you what you need to do before that those thoughts start to come into their minds. I'm gonna tell you what you need to do beforehand to help reduce it. Now, will it go to zero? No, it will not, but can it reduce the number of times someone's like, I need to think about it, I need to talk to my spouse? Yes, it can. Okay, so that's what so that's the sales mindset, and a lot of this is from my book. Like, so I wrote this book, Ultimate Guide to Sales from Your Gym. I think pre-COVID, this is like 2019, even 2018, um, is when I wrote this book. There are some things in this book that will never ever end, right? In terms of it, it's it's totally uh time-tested. It's not these like, oh, that only worked back in 2019 or that was before COVID. No, some of the principles inside uh this book will will let they're just basic sales principles that will never ever go away. So a lot of the things I will be pulling is from this book that I wrote similarly to the masterclass that I did for the marketing one. A lot of the principles that I taught were based in from my book, that orange one right there. That's it right there. That's the orange one. So that's it. That's the sales masterclass. I believe wherever you're if you're listening to this on a podcast, click the link in the show notes. If you're watching this on YouTube, go click the link somewhere. I guess it's below the video. I don't know. You can always go back to one of the emails. It's totally a free webinar. We're doing it on Thursday, April 23rd, and it's at noon Eastern. Thursday, April 23rd at noon Eastern. Super excited for it. It's gonna be a great time. Full disclosure, I am running this like a masterclass. So it's not a webinar. I don't have PowerPoint slides. So I'm just letting you guys know I don't have PowerPoint slides. I I will be working up from a document that I'll be teaching from, but it's not a webinar. I'm not gonna have this big sales pitch of some course or a product at the end of the webinar. It's not what I'm gonna do. Um, I've done that stuff before, right? I've taught webinars before and everything like that. That's just not what I'm doing on this one. And there will be a bonus. Like if you show up, okay, there will be a bonus. I and the bonus will be related to the lot of the stuff that we talk about. Hint, hint. The bonus may have something to do with with price. I'm just giving you a hint hint, and it's a good one. You're gonna want to show up live. But the only way to get the bonus is if you show up live on the webinar, and we'll give you that as well. And what else am I missing? I think that's it. So hopefully you're gonna. This is I'm recording this on a Tuesday, so we got a couple more days. Again, I'm still shocked at the amount of people that have already registered for this event, it just makes me believe that people are struggling with this sales process. And I believe a lot of the stuff you're gonna learn is gonna help clean some stuff up. Now, I'll tell you this if you just learn one thing that can improve your close rate by let's call it 10%, right? Let's say you learn one thing that improves your close rate by 10%, and that means that let's say you're at 50% before and you get it to 60%. Okay. And so every month, let's say you're sitting down with 10 people before you were closing five, now you're closing six. Okay. That is six, that's one a month, one more a month. That's 12 over the course of the entire year. If you take 12 and you multiply by your lifetime customer value, which I will tell you for us is around$10,000, right? That's what our lifetime customer value is at GFP, around$10,000. And I will talk about that too. I'll tell you how to get lifetime customer value on the masterclass. I think it's important to have your mind set around what are we trying to sell here? Are we selling a$200 membership or are you selling a$10,000 lifetime value? And you tend to approach those two numbers very differently. Like how you're gonna approach$200 versus how you're gonna approach$10,000. Now, the money to them is$200. The money to you is$10,000,$10,000 if it's the lifetime, if that is your lifetime value, right? And so I could take this lifetime value of$10,000. I got 12 new customers. That's$120,000, right? I think that's right. Yeah. Yeah, that's$120,000 more from a 10%. You can get a 10% increase by just doing one little thing a little bit better, asking one question, overcoming one objection. There's just sometimes we got to move the needle a little bit. I don't think this masterclass is gonna help you go from a, you know, 30% close rate to a 97% close rate. I'm not, I'm not that good, right? I'm not that good of a sales coach. But if I can improve your close rate by 10% by taking one little thing that that we do, and you have a strong lifetime value like like we do here, um, and let's say it's half as good, right? Let's say your lifetime value is only$5,000. Well, that's an extra sixty thousand dollars that you got from a free masterclass by doing one little thing a little bit better. So that's what we're after. So that's my pitch. Hopefully, you learn something. I I try to do some teaching during my commercials for these for these masterclasses, but hopefully you pick something up. But hopefully, really you come to the masterclass. It's completely free. There's nothing that I'm gonna sell you at the end, and uh, I'm super excited for it. I get really jazzed for these, I get energized uh when I do these master classes. The last one we had, we had, I mean, an incredible amount of people that registered for it showed up. There's great energy, there's great questions. It was just a really feel good thing, and I'm thinking this one's gonna be uh just as good if if if not better. So hopefully you join us again. If you're listening to this on podcast, the link is in the Show notes if you're watching this on YouTube. I'm sorry you had to stare at my ugly face the entire time. But you can click, I think it's descriptive link in the description on YouTube or wherever it is. I'm not really even sure anymore. Click that link and you can register for free. And I will see you on the inside. Peace.